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06/08/12 06/08/12 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] >> from pacifica, this is "democracy now!" >> the government linked bradley manning to aiding and al qaeda. i mean, that essentially is criminalizing national security journalism if you really work this thing out. what they're saying is anyone who puts this information on the internet, if your report on anything related to military operations and al qaeda reads it, you could be accused that aiding the enemy.
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>> bradley manning is in court again this week. we will get a report on the pre- trial hearing and speak with denver nicks, author of, "private: bradley manning, wikileaks and the biggest exposure of official secrets in american history." then, a remarkable film by a palestinian father named emad burnat. he got his first video camera to film his son growing up, but when on to document a movement and occupation. >> the film is called "5 broke cameras." that is how many of his cameras the israeli and settlers broke
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as he filled his villagers part two of our conversation with emad burnat and the co-director israeli guy davidi. all of that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!,", the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the crisis in syria is intensifying following a massacre of sunni villagers. witnesses and activists say government-backed forces killed up to 86 people in the village of qubair, over how for women and children. most of the victims were burned in their own homes, with many bodies showing signs of grizzly murders. the massacre reportedly came after dozens of syrian troops and militia members surrounded the village of from all directions. on thursday, syrian troops blocked u.n. monitors from reaching the village and some observers came under fire as they tried to approach.
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the attack came less than two weeks after pro-government forces killed over 100 civilians in the village of houla. the syrian government blames rebel "terrorists." at the united nations, international envoy kofi annan $8 to his ceasefire plan has failed and says responsibility first rests with syrian president bashar al-assad. >> today, despite the acceptance of the six. plan -- 6-point plan, and the observers to syria, i must be frank and confirm the plan is not being implemented. clearly, all parties must cease violence. but equally clearly, the first responsibility lies with the government. since then, shelling of the
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city's has intensified, government-backed militias of seem to have free reign with appalling consequences. >> also in his remarks, kofi annan renewed his warning that syria may already be in a catastrophic civil war. >> given the level of violence, you could say we are directing, if we're not already, in a civil war. all efforts are being made to ensure if it were to become a full-blown civil war, it does not spread to the neighbors. >> appearing with kofi annan, current u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon condemn the massacre in hama. >> any regime or leader that tolerates such killing of innocents has lost its final humanity. today's news reports of another
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massacre or shocking in sickening. the village of palace surrounded by civilian forces, the bodies of innocent civilians lying where they were shot, some allegedly burned or slashed with knives. we condemn this unspeakable barbarity and renew our determination to bring those responsible to account. >> members of the massacre accounts remain at an impasse over the international response to serious turmoil. kofi annan has proposed establishing a new contact group involving the u.s., russia, and iran but the u.s. has refused to accept iran's involvement. russia and china continue to oppose proposals for sanctions against syria and the u.s. led calls for al-assad to step down. the russian envoy of the u.n. said council members have ignored the role of syria's armed rebels in the ongoing violence and called for iran's involvement in any future talks. >> the truth of the matter as
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you know is that armed opposition groups to not only fail to comply to the kofi annan plan, but to clear it is their intention not to do so, to us, is a very dangerous development and a counterproductive to element. we hear complaints about iran, so the way to deal with that is to have discussions and make sure their activities are in sync with the activities of the rest of us who want to have this matter settled peacefully. >> russian foreign minister lavrov earlier in the day that to oppose any security council measure authorizing outside intervention saying, "there will not be security council mandate from such intervention, i guarantee that." hillary clinton renewed the obama administration's call for al-assad's immediate departure speaking in turkey. >> al-assad has doubled down on his brutality and duplicity.
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syria will not, cannot be peaceful, stable or certainly democratic until al-assad goes. so even as we intensify the sanctions pressure, because as we are meeting in istanbul, the sanctions working committee of the friend of the syrian people was meeting in washington. the time has come for the international community to unite around a plan for post-al-assad syria. >> president obama has reportedly ordered a major increase in drone strikes in pakistan over the past two months in apparent anticipation of the pakistani government imposing an all-out ban. according to bloomberg news, is reported order may account for the recent spike in drone attacks that have killed scores of people. a number of u.s. officials say they fear pakistan may order the cia to vacate the air base it uses to deploy its fleet a predator drones. the u.s. is reportedly
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withholding at least $3 billion in an ongoing dispute with pakistan over the free passage of nato supply convoys and the u.s. refusal to apologize for a november airstrike that mistakenly killed 24 pakistani troops. speaking in afghanistan, defense secretary leon panetta said the u.s. is "reaching the limits" of its patience with pakistan. >> we're reaching the limits of our patience here. for that reason, it is extremely important that pakistan take action to prevent this kind of safe haven from taking place and from allowing terrorists to use their country as a safety net in order to conduct their attacks on our forces. >> his visit to afghanistan came one day after an estimated 18 afghan civilians were killed in u.s.-led nato bombing.
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speaking during a visit to the pakistani capital of is on the spot meanwhile, the u.n.'s common -- top human-rights official questioned the legality of u.s. drone strikes. >> drone attacks to raise serious questions about compliance with international law, in particular, the principle of distinction and proportionality. and ensuring accountability for any to comply with international law, therefore, i stress the importance of investigating such cases and insuring compensation and redress to the victims. >> protests erupted in bahrain on thursday after prominent human-rights activist was arrested for the second time in a month. the bill rajat, the president of bahrain's center for human rights, was detained after criticizing the bahrain monarchy in twitter messages and media appearances, including one on "democracy now!" last week.
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he had only been out of jail a few days after spending three weeks behind -- priebus the behind bars. the state department has added members of the somali militant group al-shabab to its wanted list for the first time, offering tens of millions of dollars in bounties for some of the group's leaders. al-shabab launched an attack reportedly on the somali president last week. the state department has accused the group of killing thousands of somali civilians, peace activists, journalists, and aid workers. on the campaign trail, new figures show republican candidate mitt romney vastly out fund raised president obama in donations last month. romney took in more than 7 $6 million, nearly 30% more than obama's haul of around $60 million. 7% of his donors accounted for $64 million of its total figures -- of his total.
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the figures for both parties do not include numbers raised by super pacs backing the candidates. a spokesperson for the greek neo-nazi party golden dawn has been charged with assault after slapping a rival politician on live television. ilias kasidiaris was taking place when rena dourou of the left-wing party mentioned his alleged involvement in a 2007 armed robbery kasidiaris responded by throwing a glass of water at the row and then slapped another female politician, leon kanelli, in the face three times. kanelli said it demonstrates the golden dawn party's fascist tendencies. >> anybody can get into parliament. under the so-called democracy. be careful.
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there is a new generation that has not felt fascists and its back and on its heart. now they start to understand. >> thousands of indigenous protesters marched into the bolivian capital to demand the ouster of the canadian mining company south american silver. the demonstrators arrived from communities surrounding the silver mine, which holdfasts deposits of silver, and other ores. >> the natural resources belong to each and every bolivian and we want the government to respect the natural resources. the mining company has violated the rights of the people. >> occupy wall street activists returned to zuccotti park thursday to protest trespassing charges against activists who were arrested at new york's trinity church on december 17.
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the protesters had scaled a fence on a church on a property after trinity refused to give them sanctuary following their eviction from zuccotti park. thursday's rally was held as part of a campaign to pressure trinity to drop cooperation with prosecutors ahead of the protesters' trial next week. a group of new york pastors led a prayer vigil in support. this is reverend rosemary bray mcnatt of the fourth universalist society. >> i must take issue with trinity church today. i must take issue with their desire to prosecute people for acting in a way that churches and houses of worship has acted for centuries i must take issue with those people for whatever reason who have decided that prosecutions of free speech and prosecution in the service of human life and human flourishing is a good idea.
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>> also speaking thursday was a priest, poet, activist, father daniel berrigan. >> when the people [unintelligible] it becomes real once more. we're witnessing the unreality of real-estate out of control, which is to say, the real-estate is growing and real by playing god. they're trying to be in charge and failing utterly. restore theo reality to real-estate. >> those are some of the headlines. this is "democracy now!,", the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. >> welcome to all our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. for just the third time since he
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was arrested over two years ago, alleged army whistleblower bradley manning was seen by the public this week. his three day pre-trial hearing wraps up today before a military court at fort meade in maryland. manning faces 22 charges including the capital offense of aiding the enemy, as well as violating the espionage act. also, computer fraud and theft of records. the 24-year-old private is accused of leaking hundreds of thousands of documents to wikileaks, including secret files on the iraq and afghan wars. his attorneys are seeking the dismissal of 10 of the counts against him. his defense team says the counts are either unlawfully vague or fall short of amounting to a prosecutable offense. manning's military trial is scheduled for september. >> earlier this week, his legal team submitted a motion calling for u.s. government to release hundreds of thousands of documents relating to the alleged leak. the government is reportedly in possession of 250,000 pages of
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documents related to the case, but has refused them -- refused to turn them over to manning's defense team. to find out more about the trial, we go to washington, d.c., to talk to katrice. he is co author with greg mitchell of the book, "turth and consequences: the u.s. vs. bradley manning." welcome to "democracy now!" tell us what is happened so far. >> to some and up, i was said this proceeding has been all about discovery of evidence. hasing's defense lawyer been trying to get the government to provide him with documents that would show just how the government responded to the leaks that came from the wikileaks disclosures, particularly he has been interested in the u.s. and izzy cables. a lot of the focus in the past couple of months, and is going back to march, has been about getting the state department
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damage assessment report. that is how we saw the state department witnesses taking the stand yesterday during the proceeding. in addition to that, we have also seen the have litigated, trying to get the dismissal of computer fraud charges and arguing that he could not have exceeded authorized access because he did in fact have clearance or his -- we have had discussions in the courtroom about getting access to an fbi law enforcement file. so the main focus of this proceeding has really been about forcing the discovery of evidence. >> and the effort by his attorney to get some of the charges dismissed? what is the difference between those the attorneys are not trying to get dismissed at this time and those that they are? >> going back to march,
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throughout all of these motion hearings, they have made some attempt to dismiss charges. for the record, they did try to get all charges dismissed because they believe the military prosecutors and government have not been doing due diligence for search for information that would have to do with whether bradley manning is guilty or innocent, or could be used to reduce his sentence if he is in fact convicted. in this hearing in june, these charges have broken down to being a espionage charges and also the computer fraud charges. this particular set has come up in the proceeding mainly because this is where this lawyer is at. he has tried to get other charges dropped and so far the judge has not been or entertain these motions and sided with the defense. a >> the judge has ordered the
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u.s. government to hand over crucial documents, including the state department's preliminary damage assessment of manning's actions to the defense. his lawyers argued the information is vital to his defense. what is coming of this, kevin? >> there is been a huge development in the last month with this assessment report in that the defense is actually going to get this draft. the government tried in may to argue this draft only contains speculative information. in june, the press and public heard the judge was not going to buy this argument, that is not a legitimate reason for the defense to not to get to see the contents. what became the issue with this damage assessment report was bradley manning's lawyer has the documents, but wanted to know if it was the most up-to-date version of the report because it stops on august 2011.
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three witnesses were called yesterday. one of the witnesses, rena bitter, as a member of the operations center that oversaw the crisis response, participated in that effort. these people were there and testifying about the contents and helping bradley manning's lawyer to realize and understand exactly what was in the assessment, but also became an effort to figure out what other records might the state department have. >> kevin, what about bradley manning himself, his demeanor in the courtroom, has rarely been seen throughout this whole several years now. does he have any interaction with other people in the courtroom? how does he seem? >> he has very limited interaction with people in the audience. he is mostly unaware of what reporters are doing, as evidenced by the fact -- he
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became aware during this proceeding there were people in the audience that had truth shirts and he smiled at this. there were people here supporting him. during the proceeding, sometimes used to and in and sometimes scribbling, writing. he pays attention. sometimes when the proceeding it's very interesting, you can tell he is engaged, talking to his lawyer. for the most part, he is behaving like someone who was 24 years old would if they were in a military proceeding where they are largely unfamiliar with the legalese being discussed. >> kevin, you, "democracy now!" and other media organizations and journalists, filed a petition last month in an attempt to grant the public and press access to more information about the court martial of manning. so far they have refused to make public the government's motion papers, the cuts won't -- court's own orders.
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where is this going? >> the judge announced at the opening of the proceedings there was this petition before the court of appeals, the army criminal court of appeals. and she did not think there needed to be a stay of proceedings, so there's not any reason for the proceeding to be put on hold so that this could be decided. the key issue here is that in the proceedings, as a reporter, i don't get to go look at these decisions, these motions, some of these orders in the aftermath. that means i'm listening to what is being said in real time -- basically, try to do my own transcript of the proceeding in order to put together a report for their readers after the proceedings are concluded for the day. this is very problematic because in some ways, it is hard to confirm what is being said. for example, you have misspellings of names.
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you have trouble with members and key details. it is hard because you're putting all of the burden on the military briefer to provide you with information. you're also trying to keep up with what is being read. it is totally unreasonable that there would not be any sort of documentation provided to the press and public so that they could confirm the accuracy of the recordings. >> kevin gosztola, we're going to get a break and then we will join with denver nicks who has written a book, "private: bradley manning, wikileaks and the biggest exposure of official secrets in american history." this is "democracy now!,", the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we will be back in a moment. ♪ [music break] ♪ [music break]
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>> this is "democracy now!,", the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. in addition to kevin gosztola,
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we're joined by denver nicks, author of a new book on bradley manning called, "private: bradley manning, wikileaks and the biggest exposure of official secrets in american history." is also a regular contributor to the daily beast. why did you decide to write this book? >> the bradley manning story is easily one of the most important stories of the last decade, in many ways his story is the story of the united states in the post 9-11 era. bradley manning's life is quintessentially american and that he was still-he is gay, when gay rights goes mainstream he joins the army. at a time when the national security state early starts to metastasized into something we of never seen before. of course his life intersects with this sort of out of control
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growth and the secrecy state that has existed since 9/11. it is a hugely important story. i wanted to tell from the beginning. >> you focus quite a bit on his early life, his friendships, his development as a geek before he even got into the military. could you talk about that, his early life and family? >> i think it is an important part of the story than has been -- i would not say it has been overlooked, but i did not feel it had been looked into with enough death and honesty -- depth and honestly. he grew up in oklahoma, not far from where i grew up. the circumstances of his early
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life for release humble. he grew up in a farmhouse outside a small town. as i said before, his life is quintessentially american in that he becomes deeply interested in computers, a computer whiz as it were, at a time when the computer becomes the central form or tools for communication. he is gay and a small conservative town in oklahoma. in short, due to the fact is this working class background, he and his family -- his family falls apart when these about 13. he has a pretty difficult use. he joined the army like many young women and men do in this country because it was a great opportunity for him and frankly, it was a great opportunity for the army. i think it is too often overlooked that bradley manning was well-positioned to be a successful intelligence analyst
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in the u.s. army, and by all accounts, was successful. certainly had troubles along the way, but he was good at his job and the army saw that. >> one of the interesting aspects of the boat, the sort of counterposed the early life of julian assange as well, growing up in australia, is run as with the law in australia as a hacker. you point out both julian assange and bradley manning were influenced by the work of richard solomon, an advocate of free software and more open internet. can you talk about stallman? >> he is one of the guru figures in the hacker community, if you will. he is the founder of what is
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called the free software foundation. the notion of free software, which as he was sick, free is in freedom, not free beer. -- which he would say, free is in freedom, not free beer. the information should be free. the fundamental currency of politics and culture is information and that a permission should be free- flowing for a healthy society, for help the culture and help the politics. n stallman's case, a healthy computer. julian assange was part of this hacker culture in the 1980's and early 1990's. like many people who are involved in that scene, julian assange gets involved in writing open source software. software based on the premises that richard stallman founded.
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bradley manning later in his life becomes friends with a fellow named danny clark who worked for richard stallman. to some degree, i think became ideassted in stallman's and that information should be free. >> can you talk about his trajectory from computer geek, from oklahoma, live near where a whistleblower was killed. >> it is amazing that karen soak wood died right outside this very small town. the odds that to the world's most famous whistleblower is would come from the small town. >> talk about how he goes from
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high school to the military. >> bradley goes to high school in wales. he goes back to oklahoma to get out of a bad situation. he was living with his mom who was dealing with some health problems and alcohol abuse problems. he goes back to the u.s. and moves in with his father. that situation becomes riddled with conflict pretty quickly. basically, it comes to a point where he gets kicked out of the house. he is homeless in tulsa for a while. he goes on a brief journey from tulsa to chicago, lands in maryland, living with his aunt and works at a starbucks. bradley manning is a very bright, thoughtful, and vicious hit. he knew he was made for more than working at a pizza parlor in tulsa for working at a starbucks for the rest of his life.
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after prodding from his father and probably after interacting with people in the national security and the government universe in these d.c. suburbs decides to look into joining the army. he made the decision without consulting many people in his family. he announced to his aunt he had already joined when he went to her and told her he was thinking about it, he had already signed his papers. it was the best option available to him, frankly, and a good option for him. as i said before, he joined the army before the financial crisis hit in this country. however, if you are and the sort of bottom working-class rum of our economic structure, the financial crisis began in about 1980. that is the financial crisis bradley manning was living in. that is why joining the army was
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the best option available to him. he wanted to get a college education. >> you say there were numerous indications throughout his life of some amount of anger management problems, emotional instability that manifested in his early life as well as the military. >> that is certainly true. there are these moments in his life when he manifests emotional problems, emotional instability. it is important to note if you put any life under a microscope, you're likely to find instances in which people appear to be crazy. i know it would be true of me. i don't want to speak of you -- >> never of amy. [laughter] >> there is that fact that people have emotional instability. everybody does. but it is clear bradley manning,
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i mean, here are rather difficult life. it is not that he had nothing to be upset about. these moments of emotional instability manifest themselves throughout his young life and leading up to the army, and are indications the army should probably have revoked his security clearance before he was arrested. there is even discussion about leaving him in the u.s. when his unit deployed to iraq. >> because? >> because he had these moments of outbursts when he was a soldier awaiting deployment. enough to cause concern with some of his superiors then maybe he was not in the right state of mind to deployed to iraq. ultimately, the army needed
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bride, good, intelligence analysts and that is what bradley manning is -- was, he is not an intelligence analyst anymore, but still a soldier in the army. >> he goes to iraq. where is the and what does he have access to? talk about what is charged with and the lady gaga cd's. >> he long had access to substantial amounts of information, more information -- bradley manning and his peers had more access to state secrets and people in the position of any previous era because we classify more information than ever and because -- at the same time, we share information among agencies in an effort to bulk up our national security and help our intelligence agents do their work. bradley manning had access to
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extraordinary amounts of classified information, more than he leaked, in fact. he goes to iraq and finds himself, as he says, troubled by some of the things he sees. on the other hand, i don't have the impression revving manning is a pacifist or was -- i do not have the impression bradley manning is a pacifist. he talks and some of the chat logs, talks about wanting or considering to apply to west point, about maybe reenlisting and working in the u.s. cyber command. he has access to an extraordinary amount information. he is accused of using that access to download information on to -- apparently, on to cd's and transferring that from his work computer to his computer in
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his room on base. which was only possible -- it was a common practice to burn information on to cd's on to unmarked disks and transferred out of the secure facility primarily in order to share it with the iraqi authorities. >> denver, he focused a great deal on his sexuality. why? >> sexually is important for all of our identities. for bradley manning, it was an important or exceptionally important part of his identity socially and politically. i think much too much has been made of the notion that bradley manning lashed out of the army because he was angry about don't ask, don't tell. i have never seen any evidence to support that suggestion. frankly, i think that comes from
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the right wing bloggers fe. brad was very close friends with a fellow named toby who was and is a prominent gay activist and the d.c. area brad was concerned about the fight for marriage equality. that is why i focused on an. of course, his relationship is in a hugely important part of his life leaving -- leading up to the point he was arrested. >> you raise the issue of whether he should be called baeanna -- breanna or bradley. >> not long before he was arrested, braddock recreated a sort of the -- and i'm not sure of the proper name -- and alter
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ego, a trench gender, named breanna. one asks oneself if it is proper to call bradley manning breanna. when bradley manning indicates to the world he is breanna manning, i will certainly call him that. no indication have of what he prefers to be called >> in this new metastasized security state we have with all of this it says on gathering of information, the system itself becomes more vulnerable. the more it gathers -- a gather such information, shares it, that more individuals like bradley manning, a private in the military, and have access
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and it keys into this trove of intelligence. >> that is absolutely right. i wrote in "daily beast" just today about this instance in which last rick "new york times" wrote to dumcover stories aboute the obama demonstration. what about the stuxnet bars and one about the kill list and drone assassination program. both were widely believed to reflect well on the president for political and electoral purposes. i'm not sure both of those stories to reflect well on the president, but certainly, they were interpreted to. both of those stories quote high-level sources divulging sensitive information. senator mccain has made a big deal about this, as others have, that apparently this classified information emanating from the
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white house, but there does not seem to be a concerted effort on the part of the white house to crack down on those leaks. legislators have announced the intention to introduce legislation to crack down on leaks even further, but that does not get to the source of the problem. the problem is not that the ship is to the key, but is too full. we have more people with more access to more secret information than ever before while we are living in the post 9/11 era of foreign policy conducted as dick cheney said, we're more dependent than ever on leaks to know what our government is doing. they're not only inevitable, but necessary. as i say in the article, if the administration is leaking information for political gain, it is reprehensible, but the least of our problems. >> finally, what happened to
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bradley manning while in jail? we just passed the two-year anniversary of him being imprisoned. and what we understand what has taken place, with a number of human rights groups and leaders have called treated that amounted to torture, taken from quantico, taken from iraq to kuwait, then held at quantico. described his treatment. >> we should not forget this happened. it was a miscarriage of justice. i think every reasonable person recognizes it was a miscarriage of justice at this point. bradley manning was moved to kuwait initially after his arrest, then taken to quantico marine base, a brick that apparently was not designed as a pretrial confinement facility, though it served that purpose in this instance. manning was deeply from 20 was first arrested, as i certainly would be in that position -- was
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deeply fraught with was first arrested, as i certainly would be in that position. it was said he did not need to be kept under suicide watch. attorney tried's from very early on to get his client moved into less harsh conditions. >> he was naked. >> early on he was not stripped naked at night exactly, but not allowed writing utensils in his cell, allowed only one piece of reading material at a time, had to surrender all of his clothes but his underwear in the evening, had to respond verbally to guards to make sure you still living but could not converse with the guards. he was kept in his cell for like 23 hours a day, one hour a day
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allowed to walk figure eights and nt gymnasium, essentially. the situation gets much worse later and apparently there's a moment when he talks about in a complaint he filed that is attorney posted on his website and which the marine guards after a protest outside quantico, protesting this treatment, the marine guards basically start harassing him. no answer is the right answer. they are yelling at him. more cards than usual are escorting him around. that situation becomes more aggravating. he is stripped naked and sort of forced to stand at attention naked, which one should know when forced to stand at ease with the feed placed about shoulder width and has been on the back, not a good position to modestly cover oneself in front of strangers.
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that situation got totally out of control. frankly, it was shameful. it backfired on the government. to be perfectly honest, i think bradley manning's treatment at quantico while deeply unfortunate and a terrible ordeal to go through, was ultimately a positive for him. he raised money because of what the government did foto him for his legal defense. the government's overreaction in that case backfired on the government, made them look ridiculous. the quantico brig was closed. >> we have to wrap it up. thank you for being with us, denver nicks, author of, "private: bradley manning, wikileaks and the biggest exposure of official secrets in american history."
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this is "democracy now!,", the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. when we come back, part 2 of our conversation with israeli and palestinian filmmaker about a remarkable new film called, "5 broke cameras." stay with us. ♪ [music break] ♪ [music break]
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>> a shout out to the students who are visiting today. this is "democracy now!,", the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. >> on thursday we first told about a new film that tells the story of a palestinian farmer, his wife and four small children, and the west bank village of bil'in. emad burnat got a video camera in 2005 when his youngest son,
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gibreel, was born. at the same time, the israeli army began building a separation wall between bil'in and a nearby israeli settlement, cutting off residents from the olive tree groves that are their livelihood. he turned his camera on his fellow villagers as they responded with non-violent protests, including marches to the wall every friday. the result is, "5 broke cameras." today, the directors join us for part two of the look at the film, but first, a clip narrated by emad burnat. by emad burnat.
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>> emad burnat, their reading from his film, "5 broke cameras." it focuses on emad burnat and his family, exploring the intersection of their life with palestinian and israeli politics.
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>> an excerpt from the documentary "5 broke cameras." to in the course of the film, one camera after another is smashed or shot as emad burnat, his village's resistance movement. with each camera, a part of the story unfolds. emad burnat is here in the u.s. for the opening of his film from bil'in in the west bank, a long note but his co-director, israeli filmmaker guy davidi. the film is winning awards around the world. it is planned here in new york of the film forum through june 12, which will host a question and answer with the filmmakers
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after tonight's 6:30 screening. there's so much to talk about this film, which is why we brought you back. emad burnat, that last clip, you are filming your brother being arrested, your parents throwing themselves at the truck and pleading with the israeli soldiers, yet you are just behind this camera. >> yes, i was filming this moment. i saw my brother get arrested and my mother and father trying to block the jeep and take my brother from the jeep. i said, i cannot do nothing, just to filming. the camera is. important witness i thought maybe i can help him, protect him or protect my family to use the footage in court. >> at times like that when no matter what is going on around
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you, your fixated on that camera -- you are fixated on that camera. your sense of your role at that time? >> i think i was always connected to the camera. the camera became my friend. i thought i had to keep filming, even when they arrested my brother or my friends were arrested. it was very important. >> you've got this camera to film your youngest son being born and growing up. >> yes, i got the camera at the same time when it started in my village. i thought i needed to film the resistance, and to film my family and my son growing up as low as what was going on outside. -- as well as what was going on
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outside critics the police come to your house at night. your son is with you. let's go to that clip.
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>> they put you under house arrest. it talk about this and how soldiers reacted to you. >> the soldiers were always trying to stop me, but shutting off my camera. i've been arrested twice. they came to my house and arrested me.
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i was filming at the same time to protect myself. i felt the camera protected me. i was arrested. they wanted to stop me. i was arrested outside my house, outside the village. they wanted me to be outside and far from the village. they used many ways. >> how long were you help? >> i was in prison for about 20 days and bad conditions. >> your deported? >> i was deported outside the village for 45 days. >> natalie the political situation that was a lot of pressure, inside your house was pressure. your camera is always on, with your filming your family or demonstrations against the separation wall. i want ask about your wife's reaction to all that was happening. this is a clip from your the end of, "5 broke cameras."
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>> your wife, emad burnat. yet, you didn't. you filmed through these years when your baby was 02 right through to when he was 5 years old. we watch him grow up and we watch this movement against the separation wall grow up, including the killings. >> in the beginning, i started filming. it was normal. everything was ok. when my first camera was broken and no is in jail a few times, i wife started to be worried about -- and i was until a few times, my wife started to worry about me. they were suffering without me. i was far from my family. she wanted me just to be safe
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and stop filming. >> guy davidi, this whole concept of this closed military zone were people are not even allowed to film inside their own homes, is this generally known in the rest of israeli society that these kinds of conditions are prevalent on the west bank? >> not because i am israeli i am given access to what people make these decisions. this is reality when relations between people are controlled by fear and paranoia. it comes from our paranoia. the sense of being the ultimate victim. >> we will leave it there. the film is called, "5 broke cameras." it is beginning to air around the u.s. and around the world.
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